Owen Massey McKnight ([info]addedentry) wrote,
@ 2003-10-18 09:30:00
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Ecce homo
All this week I've been toying with a Private Eye reversal in which the Chief Homosexual calls an emergency conference to discuss whether Christians are made or born-again, amid calls for gay disestablishment.

Now the 'S' word has been broached, the squabbling clerics really have something to fight about: do they say 'sizm' or 'skizm'?

(cf. 'referendums' or 'referenda' - let's ask the people...)

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[info]cybersofa
2003-10-18 03:15 am UTC (link)
And are bishops ordained or consecrated? So much for the paper you can trust.

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[info]thomppw
2003-10-18 04:48 am UTC (link)
you should name your daughter Referenda. or at least some sort of pet.

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[info]venta
2003-10-18 05:36 am UTC (link)
On a very-slightly-related note, am I the only one who pronounces primate-the-church-person and primate-thing-what-goes-ook differently ?

I've always thought the former was PRYmut (emphasis on first syllable), and the second pri-mate (equal emphasis on both). Radio newsreaders appear to disagree though, leading me to confidently expect the decision from the 38 Primates to end with "...and we want more bananas."

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[info]qatsi
2003-10-18 10:19 am UTC (link)
primate-the-church-person and primate-thing-what-goes-ook differently ?

You mean they're different things?

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[info]tkb
2003-10-18 01:15 pm UTC (link)
The Concise Oxford Dictionary does recognise a pronunciation distiction. The ookers have the second vowel sound as "ei" (so far as I can render the International Phonetic Alphabet with this keyboard), to rhyme with "day", while the archbishops are permitted either that pronunciation or one with the second vowel sounding as a schwa (also "neutral vowel", "obscure vowel", or backwards-e in the IPA) to rhyme with the the "a" in "ago".

Not that I'd ever thought about the distinction before: I don't think my ears would have pricked up even if I'd heard the second pronunciation used in a nature documentary.

(And, as an aside, I suspect this is the first time I have ever needed to write the word "schwa".)

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[info]venta
2003-10-18 01:29 pm UTC (link)
The Concise Oxford Dictionary does recognise a pronunciation distiction.

Hmm. Sign of our times no. 37: someone (in this case me) is more likely to post to LJ saying "does anyone know..?" than they are to go and look something up. I think I can just about get away with it this time, by claiming that I wanted to know what people thought rather than what the dictionary said they should think.

Nice to know I wasn't completely making the alternative pronunciation up, though.

I suspect this is the first time I have ever needed to write the word "schwa".

It's certainly the first time I've read it. Mind you, I also have no idea about neutral/obscure vowels, and think IPA is something you drink, so I was lost til the "a in ago" definition :)

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[info]jiggery_pokery
2003-10-18 10:45 am UTC (link)
Wasn't it Referendux?

plebiscites, perhaps?

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[info]addedentry
2003-10-18 04:47 pm UTC (link)
'Shamed By Your Mistakes In Memory?'

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=referendux

I should be.

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[info]jiggery_pokery
2003-10-18 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Have to admit I had to check that too, before I posted, mostly because I couldn't remember whether it was OxNomic in which I introduced the term or some other one.

'sbeen yyyeeeaaarrrsss since I played Nomic last.

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